tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777177917540226839.post5467323211329118584..comments2014-04-12T14:49:58.988+10:00Comments on SteveJ on Broadband: pre-election NBN posts: NBN: Lies, Damned Lies and Spreadsheets.steve jenkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16064724730975745470noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777177917540226839.post-47797701165093786362013-05-05T11:24:58.339+10:002013-05-05T11:24:58.339+10:00I haven't read the Coalition Plan for this det...I haven't read the Coalition Plan for this detail.<br>On the surface, it looks like another cynical "play with the words" exercise.<br><br>It may be dodgy. I've no way of knowing what they are trying to achieve.<br><br>NBN Co is wholly owned by the Government. The Board performs to a "statement of expectations", which the Government of the Day can change at will.<br><br>Who knows how an Abbot Govt will direct them. They're not being open, honest and fully transparent.<br><br>I'd like to say that NBN Co has locked in two-part wholesale charging (AVC & CVC), but they may be directed to alter their charging regime comprehensively - which the ACCC has to approve. <br><br>The Govt -of-the-day also creates the laws under which the ACCC operates. It could take 12 months, but they'd be able to change the rules.Steve Jenkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16064724730975745470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777177917540226839.post-29956898149859407032013-05-04T21:49:09.769+10:002013-05-04T21:49:09.769+10:00This on whirlpool by seven_tech:"Line rental ...This on whirlpool by seven_tech:<br>"Line rental won't exist under the Coalition. NBNCo. will control the lines via Bitstream, even if they rent-to-own it off Telstra. Therefore, the Bitstream can provide telephony, via VOIP OR straight IP data. It makes no difference, so you cannot differentiate in pricing terms which is "line rental"."<br><br>Still sounds dodgy to me.dedalushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11569022378786181339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777177917540226839.post-25831343816522370502013-05-03T23:13:31.851+10:002013-05-03T23:13:31.851+10:00@Dedalus.Turnbull can say what he likes without fe...@Dedalus.<br><br>Turnbull can say what he likes without fear of contradiction because he's withhold so many important details.<br><br>He should be technically correct about Telstra line-rental changing, as the current wholesaler & retailer, but that would appear to be misleading.<br><br>In the new world order, customers do NOT deal with NBN Co, they deal only with Retailers. And Telstra will still be the largest retailer.<br><br>Will people stop paying service charges to Telstra?<br>No, absolutely not.<br>Will it be called "phone-line rental"? Probably not.<br><br>It will be rental on a digital service, perhaps with a line item marked "line rental", perhaps not.<br><br>It seems he's making a very fine distinction that most people won't understand and will make no difference in practice:<br> - they will still buy a service from Telstra<br> - they will pay only Telstra bills<br> - those bills will include different services: phone and data, possibly multiples.<br> - there will be a line-rental component of the bills<br> - and a usage charges for phone and data.<br><br>How's that different to "Telstra phone-line rental"?<br> - It's actually an NBN line that Telstra is reselling<br> - it's more than a simple phone service<br> - it can be sold without a phone service<br><br>More slippery & misleading phrasing.<br><br>But then, we <b>don't</b> know, because he's not revealed all his plan..Steve Jenkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16064724730975745470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777177917540226839.post-87024712029266280472013-05-03T21:20:57.916+10:002013-05-03T21:20:57.916+10:00Steve, Turnbull in a recent statement implies that...Steve, <br>Turnbull in a recent statement implies that his FTTN plan will allow users to dispense with their Telstra phone-line rental. Another example of his blurring of the 2 competing plans.<br><br>This is an important point, and I'm looking for evidence to refute the idea that FTTN can "do away with phone-line rental" and still make phone calls.<br><br>If you have any evidence, let me know so I can add it to my web site.dedalushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11569022378786181339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1777177917540226839.post-36167880663070907932013-05-03T10:24:22.655+10:002013-05-03T10:24:22.655+10:00Perhaps their strategy is the same as their NBN, a...Perhaps their strategy is the same as their NBN, all about what we can get away with right now and no plan for the future.Paul Kruegerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13221173492324625624noreply@blogger.com